Welcome to the Pinoy to Canada (P2C) FB group!
We are not an agency. We do not advertise anywhere. Do not send us your resumes.

goodhires, askmigration, Ysaac & Associates, "Canada Work Abroad" == SCAMS.
An LMIA is always required for a WP application. It is illegal to charge an applicant for an LMIA.
It is illegal for employers and DMW agencies to charge any fees to job applicants for Canada.*
Embassy and immigration personnel don't identify themselves, and also don't expedite processing for a fee.


By using the P2C FB group, you agree to abide by these guidelines.

Section Zero

Disclaimer: The P2C FB group is a social group. Employment- and immigration-related opinion shall not be taken as expert advice unless the asker and the answerer have a paid representation relationship with each other.

Why read these guidelines? Canadian immigration is a huge maze. Highly qualified people with the skills that Canada wants are lucky, and for them, the maze will be one correct turn after another. For the rest of us, there will be a few dead ends, or a lot. Either you go to Immigration Canada's official website (cic.gc.ca) now, or read this document further so you might have an idea where you can start.

Advertisers: P2C generally does not support advertising. (For the group's purposes, advertising is defined as messages that promote products, services, entities or events that directly benefit the poster in a financial or similar manner.) If you are an MLM member and post your MLM in the group, your MLM will be labeled a scam, and you will be banned from the group. Real estate ads are also not allowed unless you are selling your PH property to move to Canada, or you have space for rent in your own home in Canada. If you do online marketing with your FB account and wish to use it for P2C, please submit this form.

Join requests: Names must be readable; if admins cannot read it, join request will be declined. Filipinos and Canadians only; other nationalities will be blocked. If you've tried requesting a few times and are not being approved, read the Advertisers section above. Admins do 100% wall check on join requests, so be sure you do not act like a fake account, which also gets reported to FB. New or recent FB accounts: to prevent scammers from joining the group, new, recent or empty accounts will not be added to the group.

New members: Before starting to post, please visit cic.gc.ca to try to determine which immigration program you could be qualified to apply under. Immigration is generally divided into temporary (visit visa, work permit, study permit) or permanent (skilled worker, skilled trades, Canadian experience, provincial nominee, caregiver, family, entrepreneur/startup). Afterwards, if you know the more important keywords for your inquiry, you can try using the group's search box on the right side below the group header (click on the magnifying glass icon). Please avoid posting messages with no topics (such as "good morning" or "thanks for accepting"), and please do not post selfies as P2C is a social site, but not a dating or matchmaking site.

Announcements: If you are making an announcement regarding a product, service or event, such product, service or event must be yours, or you must be in a responsible position for the entity providing such product, service or event. In either case, you will be responsible for such announcement. If you are unable to accept responsibility, do not post it in the group.

No spam: Please do not engage in spammy behavior, such as but not limited to repeated off-topic posting in other people's threads, begging for likes or ups, campaigning for or against politicians, and unsubstantiated claims and allegations. Asking for votes for "crush ng bayan" or similar competitions constitutes "begging for likes". Referral links and affiliate links are also considered spam.

Posting in the group: For best responses to your theme-related inquiries, post to the group in English, Tagalog or Taglish, and not only to specific members of the group. You probably joined P2C because you want to know about certain processes, so it's best to maximize the knowledge you're receiving rather than limiting yourself to a few opinions. Try to post using complete words as some of the more knowledgeable members do not respond to txtspk. Please do not discuss topics that can make you inadmissible to Canada on the basis of fraud or misrepresentation, such as borrowing your settlement funds, or working in Canada while on a visitor visa.

Pinned Post: Read the pinned post and its comments. We may have missed some info here that appears there. Links to a few important group threads can be found at https://www.facebook.com/p2cReferenceGuide.

SCAMMERS: We have collected names of some scammers out to get your hard earned money. Their profiles and descriptions can be seen in the comments section of the pinned post.
Do not transact with these scammers:

- Melissa Lopez Smith, "sponsor/employer at Candlewood Hotel Suites"
- Allan Bautista, "visa officer" of Melissa Lopez Smith
- Querico Canapi, "accounting receiver officer, Canadian Embassy Manila" of Melissa Lopez Smith
- Maricar Leviste, "manager at Fairmont Royal York Hotel"
- Arnold Jimenez, "assistant manager at POEA" of Maricar Leviste
- Williams Potter, "former immigration officer at Citizenship and Immigration Canada"
- Eliza C. Lazaro of "Ella Worldwide Services" and "MLB Reliable International Employment Services"
- Wilfredo Isaac Jr. / Canada Work Abroad / Ysaac & Associates / Caregivers, Nurses & Associates - identity thief and seminar fee scammer
- Stella Garcia, Jocelyn Caunceran and Ruby Jane Soberano - fake or stolen identities offering fake jobs
- Liza Pat, "HR officer of WSP" and Rachell Montales or [email protected] - fake or stolen identities offering fake jobs
- Cherry Mae Tejada Ferrer or [email protected] - same overused Candlewood scam as Rachell Montales and Melissa Lopez Smith

Philippine agencies are regulated by the DMW, so call the agency using the agency's DMW-listed number to confirm job availability. Scammers can use agency names without agency consent, but will ask you to call their personal numbers instead. Some scammers target only OFWs outside the Philippines so there is no protection from DMW. Beware of job offers asking for any form of payment -- the LMIA, plane ticket, and any employment seminars in the Philippines must also be paid for by the employer; applicants only pay for fees related to their own work permit application. Applicants should apply for a WP directly with a Canadian visa office; do not let your recruiter or agency apply for a WP for you!

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Section One

Tourist/Visitor visas and Parent/Grandparent Supervisas: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada.html
Paper app in the Philippines: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/visa.asp?countrySelect=PH
VFS Global charges: http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/Philippines/Service_and_Service_Charge.html

If looking for work in Canada: visit jobbank.gc.ca, workopolis.ca, monster.ca, indeed.ca, workabroad.ph, and jobstreet.com.ph. These have extensive listings, and have the lowest fraud rates. Caregivers: also try canadiannanny.ca. Do not ask members to help you look for a job. You can also check DMW's available job orders page for available job orders (those are the agencies that you can readily apply under, as long as you are qualified for the available jobs; check for their status and contact info here). Please make sure you have at least one year of paid work experience in the available job, as employers will not consider inexperienced foreign applicants. Also inform the prospective employer that you are not a citizen or permanent resident of Canada. Canada-format resumes are available in the "CIIP FSW Resource Package" in the group files section. If you choose to visit askmigration.com or boomemployment.com, do not expect a good outcome because they just pull info from various job sites, and make money from ads on the pages. Do not visit jobbank.ca -- we have received info that there are advance fee scammers there (jobbank.ca is different from jobbank.gc.ca). Another list of job sites is available here.

Legitimate recruitment agencies in some of the Canadian provinces: click here. We do not know if any of them are recruiting TFWs. The list is presented so members can check legitimacy of agencies where the province has a list available.

Legitimate immigration lawyers and consultants: click here. If you are unable to follow CIC's instructions, you may want to consider using one. Do not expect immigration reps to look for jobs for you, as most of them are not recruitment agencies. Also, be warned that it is common for immigration reps to declare prospective clients qualified for FSWP. But if you cannot meet the Express Entry cutoff score for an invitation round (see Section Three), your profile will be stuck in the pool.

NOC occupation list: IRCC moving from NOC 2016 to NOC 2021
Up to Nov. 15, 2022: If your NOC has a first digit of 0, or second digit of 0, 1, 2 or 3, you may be eligible to apply for permanent residence.
In general, all NOCs may apply for TFWP if both employer and employee are eligible. The 4 year work limit for TFWs has been lifted.
For PR purposes, your duties & responsibilities strictly determine your NOC, and your app may be refused if your job description does not closely match that in the HRSDC pages for your declared NOC.
Starting Nov. 16, 2022: TEER categories are determined using the second digit of the new 5-digit NOC code. The second digit determines the TEER category.

General application requirements (usually not needed for tourist visas):
Language test equivalents: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/language/charts.asp
Educational Credential Assessment:
     WES ECA: http://wes.org/ca/fswp/ and preliminary checker: http://www.wes.org/ca/evaluations/preliminary.asp
     BCIT ICES (possibly better results than WES): http://www.bcit.ca/ices/eca
     Alberta IQAS (possibly better results than WES): https://www.alberta.ca/iqas-immigration.aspx
Police certificates: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/medical-police/police-certificates.html
Medical exams and Panel Physicians: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/medical-police/medical-exams.html
IRCC's definition of "dependent child": http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2014/ob588.asp

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Section Two

Temporary foreign workers and caregivers (non-caregivers will probably need a Labour Market Impact Assessment or LMIA):
Information for employers: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/hire
Information for applicants: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/permit.asp
ESDC guidelines for hiring TFWs: https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers.html
Old CG program rules: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/caregiver
Live-in Caregiver Program (LCP)
(Program closed to new caregivers)
Caregiver under TFWP
(Program closed to new caregivers)
Home Childcare Provider Program
Home Support Worker Program
(Program ends on June 17, 2024)
First LMIA request received by ESDC Before Dec. 1, 2014 After Nov. 30, 2014 No LMIA required
Minimum requirements for WP application - 72 college units in PH OR GED cert,
   AND
- 6 months full time CG training OR
   1 year CG work experience OR
   BSN with RLE
- 72 college units in PH OR GED cert,
   AND
- 1 year CG work experience
- BSN with RLE (instead of work experience) might still work
- 6 months full time CG training might NOT work
- completion of 1 year CA postsecondary credential OR
   equivalent as shown in Educational Credential Assessment
- language test CLB 5
   AND one of the following:
- 1 year CG work experience for the same type of client
- BSN with RLE (instead of work experience) might still work
- 6 months full time CG training might NOT work
Requirements for PR application - 2 years of full time work (at least 30h/wk) OR
- 3,900 hours of work in 22 months
- 2 years of full time work (at least 30h/wk), plus
- language test CLB 5 (or CLB 7 if NOC 3012), AND
- completion of 1 year CA postsecondary credential OR
   equivalent as shown in Educational Credential Assessment
- 2 1 year of full time work (at least 30h/wk)
   (reduced effective April 30, 2023)

CAREGIVERS: The Caring for Children and Caring for People with High Medical Needs pathways are closed. The Home Child Care Provider and Home Support Worker pilot programs are open for 5 years starting June 18, 2019. Under these programs, caregivers provide the documentary requirements for PR at the work permit application stage, receive a CG-specific open work permit, and can also apply to bring their family members (spouse/partner and dependent children) into Canada as temporary residents. After the required 2-year work period, IRCC will finalize the family's PR applications.

Paths to PR from CG: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/caregivers

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Section Three

A list of PR programs available across Canada: click here. If you don't know which program you're eligible for, shop and compare first. Work your way back from one that you think you can do.

If this section is too long for you to read, at least read a summary of Express Entry + Federal SKilled Worker Program steps first. You will still need to read a lot of pages, but you can find out quickly if FSWP is for you.

Applications for permanent residence: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/apply.asp
Provincial Nominee Program websites by province: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/provincial/apply-who.asp
Note: Each province has its own rules. Check them out before doing the CIC PNP or Express Entry process.
Quebec immigration programs: http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/index.php
Proof of funds (should not be borrowed!): http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/funds.asp
Express Entry for FSW, FSTP, CEC and part of PNP: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry.html
EE Comprehensive Ranking System: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp
EE points calculator: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp
How to make an Express Entry profile: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/profile.asp
EE FAQ: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2014-12-01.asp
EE draw results: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/mi/index.asp?expand=mi-pr-express#mi-pr-express
     FSWP eligibility: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who.asp
          FSW points system: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp
     FSTP eligibility: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/trades/apply-who.asp
     CEC eligibility: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp

Click HERE for a few combinations of profiles that can meet or exceed 451 points without an LMIA.
ESDC guidelines for employers supporting a PR applicant: https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers/permanent.html
Application processing times: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp
eCAS status: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/my_application/status.asp
MyCIC access: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/e-services/mycic.asp
CIC Help Centre (FAQs): http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/index-featured-int.asp
Latest EE round cutoffs:
816
(PNP draw)
Nov. 18, 2024

539
(CEC draw)
Nov. 19, 2024

463
(Healthcare occupations draw)
Nov. 20, 2024



Lowest EE round cutoff:
413
May 31, 2017
(general draws only)

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Section Four

Study permits: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada.html
- For study permit to a postsecondary school, school must be in the Designated Learning Institutions list. The list also shows which schools are PGWP-eligible.
- Docs needed with a study permit app: Click here
- Docs needed with a Student Direct Stream app: Click here
- Payment schemes and language test requirements are up to the school, not CIC. Check your target school's website for admission policies.
- It is recommended to apply under the Student Direct Stream.
- PostGraduate Work Permit eligible grads may obtain PGWPs that are the same period as their study programs, except a completed study program that's at least 2 years may be eligible for a 3-year PGWP.
- Programs may be stacked so that two eligible 1-year programs can be completed for a 3-year PGWP.
- A person can get a PGWP only once in his lifetime. Plan your study->work->PR pathway well.

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Section Five

Terminology (when used in the P2C FB group):
Agency / Consultancy - Work recruiters have recruitment agencies. Immigration representatives have consultancies.
Family member - CIC limits family members that may be included with one's application to a spouse or common law partner, plus their children who are under 19 22 years of age when the application is received.
IRCC - The current iteration of CIC, "Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada".
Sponsor - To request CIC to grant permanent resident status to a family member. You do not sponsor when you want to hire someone, even if it's a relative.
Visa office - The more correct term for a facility outside Canada processing an application for CIC. Not all Canadian embassies, consulates and high commissions have them.


Updated Sep 24, 2022.

* - This is posted as a general warning. It is illegal to charge recruitment fees or placement fees specifically in the provinces of British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario, so applicants bound for these provinces should not be charged these fees. Others may charge fees, but DMW limits it to an equivalent of one month salary. Exact text can be found at http://asean.org/storage/2016/08/P59_Memo-Circular-No-3-Placement-Fee.pdf.