Welcome to the Pinoy to Canada (P2C) FB group!
An LMIA is always required for a WP application. It is illegal to charge an applicant for an LMIA.
It is illegal for employers and POEA agencies to charge any fees to job applicants for Canada.*
Embassy and immigration personnel don't identify themselves, and also don't expedite processing for a fee.
By using the P2C FB group, you agree to abide by these guidelines.
Disclaimer: The P2C FB group is a social group. Employment- and immigration-related opinion shall not be taken as expert advice unless the asker and the answerer have a paid representation relationship with each other.
Why read these guidelines? Canadian immigration is a huge maze. Highly qualified people with the skills that Canada wants are lucky, and for them, the maze will be one correct turn after another. For the rest of us, there will be a few dead ends, or a lot. Either you go to Immigration Canada's official website (cic.gc.ca) now, or read this document further so you might have an idea where you can start.
Advertisers: P2C generally does not support advertising. (For the group's purposes, advertising is defined as messages that promote products, services, entities or events that directly benefit the poster in a financial or similar manner.) If you are an MLM member and post your MLM in the group, your MLM will be labeled a scam, and you will be banned from the group. Real estate ads are also not allowed unless you are selling your PH property to move to Canada, or you have space for rent in your own home in Canada. If you do online marketing with your FB account and wish to use it for P2C, please submit this form.
Join requests: Names must be readable; if admins cannot read it, join request will be declined. Filipinos and Canadians only; other nationalities will be blocked. If you've tried requesting a few times and are not being approved, read the Advertisers section above. Admins do 100% wall check on join requests, so be sure you do not act like a fake account, which also gets reported to FB.
New members: Before starting to post, please visit cic.gc.ca to try to determine which immigration program you could be qualified to apply under. Immigration is generally divided into temporary (visit visa, work permit, study permit) or permanent (skilled worker, skilled trades, Canadian experience, provincial nominee, caregiver, family, entrepreneur/startup). Afterwards, if you know the more important keywords for your inquiry, you can try using the group's search box on the right side below the group header (click on the magnifying glass icon). Please avoid posting messages with no topics (such as "good morning" or "thanks for accepting"), and please do not post selfies as P2C is a social site, but not a dating or matchmaking site.
No spam: Please do not engage in spammy behavior, such as but not limited to repeated off-topic posting in other people's threads, begging for likes or ups, campaigning for politicians, and unsubstantiated claims and allegations.
Posting in the group: For best responses to your theme-related inquiries, post to the group in English, Tagalog or Taglish, and not only to specific members of the group. You probably joined P2C because you want to know about certain processes, so it's best to maximize the knowledge you're receiving rather than limiting yourself to a few opinions. Try to post using complete words as some of the more knowledgeable members do not respond to txtspk. Please do not discuss topics that can make you inadmissible to Canada on the basis of fraud or misrepresentation, such as borrowing your settlement funds, or working in Canada while on a visitor visa.
Pinned Post: Read the pinned post and its comments. We may have missed some info here that appears there. Links to a few important group threads can be found at https://www.facebook.com/p2cReferenceGuide.
SCAMMERS: We have collected names of some scammers out to get your hard earned money. Their profiles and descriptions can be seen in the comments section of the pinned post.
Do not transact with these scammers:
- Melissa Lopez Smith, "sponsor/employer at Candlewood Hotel Suites"
- Allan Bautista, "visa officer" of Melissa Lopez Smith
- Querico Canapi, "accounting receiver officer, Canadian Embassy Manila" of Melissa Lopez Smith
- Maricar Leviste, "manager at Fairmont Royal York Hotel"
- Arnold Jimenez, "assistant manager at POEA" of Maricar Leviste
- Williams Potter, "former immigration officer at Citizenship and Immigration Canada"
- Eliza C. Lazaro of "Ella Worldwide Services" and "MLB Reliable International Employment Services"
- Wilfredo Isaac Jr. / Canada Work Abroad / Ysaac & Associates / Caregivers, Nurses & Associates - identity thief and seminar fee scammer
- Stella Garcia, Jocelyn Caunceran and Ruby Jane Soberano - fake or stolen identities offering fake jobs
- Liza Pat, "HR officer of WSP" and Rachell Montales or [email protected] - fake or stolen identities offering fake jobs
- Cherry Mae Tejada Ferrer or [email protected] - same overused Candlewood scam as Rachell Montales and Melissa Lopez Smith
Philippine agencies are regulated by the POEA, so call the agency using the agency's POEA-listed number to confirm job availability. Scammers can use agency names without agency consent, but will ask you to call their personal numbers instead. Some scammers target only OFWs outside the Philippines so there is no protection from POEA. Beware of job offers asking for any form of payment -- the LMIA, plane ticket, and any employment seminars in the Philippines must also be paid for by the employer; applicants only pay for fees related to their own work permit application. Applicants should apply for a WP directly with a Canadian visa office; do not let your recruiter or agency apply for a WP for you!
Tourist/Visitor visas and Parent/Grandparent Supervisas: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit
Paper app in the Philippines: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/visa.asp?countrySelect=PH
VFS Global charges: http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/Philippines/Service_and_Service_Charge.html
If looking for work in Canada: visit jobbank.gc.ca, workopolis.ca, monster.ca, poea.workabroad.ph, and poea.jobstreet.com.ph. These have extensive listings, and have the lowest fraud rates. Caregivers: also try canadiannanny.ca. Do not ask members to help you look for a job. You can also check POEA's available job orders page for available job orders (those are the agencies that you can readily apply under, as long as you are qualified for the available jobs; check for their status and contact info here). Please make sure you have at least one year of paid work experience in the available job, as employers will not consider inexperienced foreign applicants. Also inform the prospective employer that you are not a citizen or permanent resident of Canada. Canada-format resumes are available in the "CIIP FSW Resource Package" in the group files section. If you choose to visit askmigration.com or boomemployment.com, do not expect a good outcome because they just pull info from various job sites, and make money from ads on the pages. Do not visit jobbank.ca -- we have received info that there are advance fee scammers there (jobbank.ca is different from jobbank.gc.ca). Another list of job sites is available here. You can also try looking for employers who already have other TFWs here (website owned by an anti-TFW organization).
Legitimate recruitment agencies in some of the Canadian provinces: click here. We do not know if any of them are recruiting TFWs. The list is presented so members can check legitimacy of agencies where the province has a list available.
Legitimate immigration lawyers and consultants: click here. If you are unable to follow CIC's instructions, you may want to consider using one. Do not expect immigration reps to look for jobs for you, as most of them are not recruitment agencies. Also, be warned that it is common for immigration reps to declare prospective clients qualified for FSWP. But if you cannot meet the Express Entry cutoff score for an invitation round (see Section Three), your profile will be stuck in the pool.
NOC occupation list: http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/QuickSearch.aspx?val65=*.
If your NOC has a first digit of 0, or second digit of 0, 1, 2 or 3, you may be eligible to apply for permanent residence.
In general, all NOCs may apply for TFWP if both employer and employee are eligible. The 4 year work limit for TFWs has been lifted.
For PR purposes, your duties & responsibilities strictly determine your NOC, and your app may be refused if your job description does not closely match that in the HRSDC pages for your declared NOC.
General application requirements (usually not needed for tourist visas):
Language test equivalents: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/language/charts.asp
WES ECA: http://wes.org/ca/fswp/ and preliminary checker: http://www.wes.org/ca/evaluations/preliminary.asp
Alternately, BCIT ICES might provide a slightly higher ECA: http://www.bcit.ca/ices/eca
Police certificates: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert
Medical exams and Panel Physicians: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/medical
CIC's definition of "dependent child": http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2014/ob588.asp
Temporary foreign workers and caregivers (you will need a Labour Market Impact Assessment):
Information for employers: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/hire
Information for applicants: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/permit.asp
CG program rules: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/caregiver
ESDC updated CG program guidelines: http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/foreign_workers/caregiver
ESDC guidelines for hiring other TFWs: http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/foreign_workers/high_low_wage
(Note: 72 units is still allowed for a CG to be eligible to work, but completion of a CA postsecondary credential or a PH college degree is required to be able to apply for PR if under the new rules.)
Study permits: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study
Terminology (when used in the P2C FB group):
Agency / Consultancy - Work recruiters have recruitment agencies. Immigration representatives have consultancies.
Family member - CIC limits family members that may be included with one's application to a spouse or common law partner, plus their children who are under 19 years of age when the application is received.
IRCC - The current iteration of CIC, "Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada".
Sponsor - To request CIC to grant permanent resident status to a family member. You do not sponsor when you want to hire someone, even if it's a relative.
Visa office - The more correct term for a facility outside Canada processing an application for CIC. Not all Canadian embassies, consulates and high commissions have them.
Updated Jan. 12, 2017.
* - This is posted as a general warning. It is illegal to charge recruiment fees or placement fees specifically in the provinces of British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario, so applicants bound for these provinces should not be charged these fees. Others may charge fees, but POEA limits it to an equivalent of one month salary. Exact text can be found at http://asean.org/storage/2016/08/P59_Memo-Circular-No-3-Placement-Fee.pdf.